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|| Awww Damn, all my theories were wrong ( ;∀;) ||
|| Well ||
|| I'm just gonna add another panel of [Izuku showing that he HAS (Not always) an "Afo Hole"] to the pile of panels (+ Official art) we already have. ||
Let's be honest guys, Horikoshi is taking absolutely (almost) EVERY theory that has been floating around the fandom and turning them CANON left and right, Surely he will confirm the Dad For One theory in a few chapters
(And in the worst possible way as he did with Tomura in the previous chapters)
please write this
Nah Katsuki made Izuku confess to Ochako bc he wanted him yo be happy and thought he deserves better, better than himself. Izuku and Ochako dates for a while but since both of them always just tries to be nice, after some time they start to understand they don't have romantic chemistry.
Ochako understand this first and then she will realise how Katsuki and Izuku feels to each other, she's gonna help Izuku to understand all of this bc my boi is always the oblivious one.
Bkdk will kiss and hold each others's hands and thank Ochako. She will say that she's just happy to at least some of them can find the happiness. Izuku and Ochako will hug each other. When Ochako goes to her home, she will see Tsuyu, the one who always listen her sad, happy and angry times.
Tsuyu will ask Ochako how she feels and hug each other, she will fall right into her arms and the door will nearly bust open. She will see another Tsuyu and both of the Tsuyu's words will be just "uh oh".
Hi chat, bnha chapter 431 wasnt fake and leakers are saying that we should respect horikoshi-sensei for 431 while they are the ones who put them on Twitter when it wasnt even published💀 What a fckn irony.
Note: yeah we should respect horikoshi sensei for creating this story btw but I thought he was someone who thought about his characters well. He always tried to make his art and story better in each chapter, thats why I felt so bad while seeing the chapter 431. I expected something better than this (its not about ship btw dont try to make this into a ship war).
This is Horikoshi's note, Im gonna continue from chapter 429.
Also I need to ask someone who knows english better than me, what does he mean by "I turn off the cameras and free..." sentence?
honestly, I wanna know too...
Hi chat, how are u all feeling
A quick sneak peek for u all...
I just know this mf knew what was going to happen. I just know...
Im smooching your analyses rn, there is somethings I didn't notice in yours sooo thank youuu🧡
Chapter 431 analysis. why everyone drew the wrong conclusions.
When the first spoiler frames from the volume came out, hell on earth began, some shippers rejoiced at the canonization, others cursed Horikoshi. I was initially going to say that all these wishes of dirty things towards the author are very ugly: at first, when 430 came out, the Katsudeku shippers rejoiced, and the Izuochi shippers wrote Horikoshi curses, and now it's the opposite, and I would like to ask him to behave decently. I was also upset by the leaks, not only because I liked the other ships, but also because I never saw Deku's romantic chemistry with Ochako, and I hate the trope "a good girl is in love with the main character, he doesn't think about her, but in the end they get married" BUT then the whole chapter came out. And no. In the finale, there is no Izuocha as a canonization at all. At all. And it’s not about the ships, but about the fact that many people didn’t understand what the author wanted to say. It's just that some have already gotten wound up and drunk from the "canonization", while others have started to wind themselves up with their disappointment and savor it, pulling things onto it that don't actually confirm their disappointment", that is, we have a crowd effect.
At first, without context, only by spoilers (it has already been confirmed that some of them are false), it seemed romantic in itself. That is, out of context, you can see how the hero notices a girl at a party after the timeskip, and can't take his eyes off her
But in the whole chapter, this page followed this.
And Deku doesn't look in love here, he looks... scared.
What moments before this does this page refer to and parallelize? And these? Deku, Tsuyu notice that Ochako is very ill and she hides her pain, and forces herself to smile.
And this is what parallels this image, which is confirmed by the context of the whole chapter from the very beginning: Ochako is in pain.
8 years of pain and abscess and this is referenced in her conversation with Tsuyu before the party Next: Deku runs to Ochako as he ran after the war: to save her, he saw that his friend needed saving and urgently.
Ochako herself. You might think that this frame is a confirmation that she still loves Deku.
But the whole chapter had a completely different context.
She remembers this moment as if out of a desire to remember it and feel it again, as if wanting to deceive herself that it is still like that. Just pay attention to the frames: Ochako is shown alone in the crowd, her gait is unsteady, she remembers things that happened 8 years ago out of nostalgia and most likely her wishes will be deceived, that she still has this feeling, because she feels empty. That's why she remembers her conversation with Izuku in chapter 428: Ochako longs for salvation again.
In some form, she gets this salvation when in her head she pushes herself on behalf of Toga to live on. In some way, there is a romantic subtext here, Uraraka on behalf of Toga tells herself that she should let her go and try to experience something else, she herself feels a romantic subtext here, remembering her feelings, but are they in love with each other at the moment?
VERY, very unlikely And, so as not to accuse me, I'm not even a Togarako shipper, because I don't like Toga.
Then the fandom carried on and everyone was charged by each other: Izuku left Bakugo and did not go with him to the agency. But A) it goes without saying that he always wanted to be on equal terms with Kacchan, and compete on equal terms, so he wants to quickly become an independent hero. B) and this is the most important thing. The car and their conversation in the car, which was not in the Friday spoilers, and most importantly the context of this conversation.
During the discussion between Kirishima, Katsuki and Izuku that Deku did not agree to work with Katsuki in the same agency, Deku looks at the signed card with All Might and smiles softly and thoughtfully. It would seem: Deku is happy for his friend
But the Context. This is the same card that was next to Katsuki when he died, and Izuku saw him dead. And Izuku considered himself guilty of his death, that he was not there to protect him, he did not manage to arrive in time to save him, he allowed Toga to drag him into the portal, he was distracted, he did not save.
Deku considers himself - guilty. And this is exactly what goes in the context of the conversation about Izuku not agreeing to be with him in the same agency, although he himself once wanted it. Izuku still thinks that he is too Guilty to be near Katsuki. Hence his running away from him, which Katsuki reads as if he is no longer needed.
But who is Deku? The one who was told to keep his heart under lock and key in order to be the heir of One for All. The one who suppressed his emotions since childhood, and made others always believe that he was okay.
And no, this doesn't mean that Deku doesn't care about Kacchan and doesn't love him (in what sense it doesn't matter), Deku thinks that Katsuki would be better off without him and doesn't understand at all how much he hurts Katsuki. Deku - hides his pain after all the traumas of the war still behind a smile on his face, and this is exactly what Uraraka does in the same chapter. That is why Izuku immediately notices that something is wrong with her at the party, because he feels the same way. The very context of how he looks at Uraraka, the guys discuss couples and a happy life, but what Deku remembers before turningon Ochaka? Shigaraki and his injury.
About Deku's blushing: when they clash, he probably blushes because of the sexual context, but during the promise to spend more time with Ochako, this is most likely not the case: it's a promise to save her and shame for himself for not noticing that she needed help earlier, as well as some kind of "self-conviction", when a person tries to convince himself of something that he can handle or deceive himself, his face often heats up: after all, Deku can't "save" himself.
That's why he is the one who reads Uraraka's feelings, their traumas are similar. And as a hero who can't stand aside when someone is in trouble, he runs to give her what she needs: help and salvation. This is not a chapter about the canonization of ships, these are the traumas that haunt them already in adulthood and the story about them.
If leaks aee real, I will just feel disappointed and move on. There is nothing we can do about it so lets fuckn go to make some fckn art brother...
Hi chat, how are u all feeling
Respect tagging etiquette and take your cope out of the izuocha tag. Why should we be unhappy. It doesn't matter that he didn't catch her. Bakugo caught Izuku after apologizing yet Izuku never thought about that moment or acknowledged it, he only thought about Ochako cheering him on which made him emotional in the same way he was when All Might allowed him to have his dream.
Omg if my thoughts upset you that much sorry but I was just sharing my thoughts, of course you dont have to be unhappy😂 I never even said "izuocha shippers should be unhappy". I said "if *my* main ship was izuocha, *I* would be disappointed".
Also if I gotta talk about "the same way Izuku being happy just like when All Might allowed him to have his dream." thing, I'd say I think you are wrong.
And if you really are an izuocha shipper, It's funny how you equate Ochako (the love interest) with All Might (his idol and he kinda looked like a dad figure in the last movie). 💀
When All Might said "You can be a hero" Izuku had nothing. He gave him hope. When Ochako cheered Izuku; I think he felt extremely happy and blessed to have a really good friend.
He didn't have any time to think about romance then so I think that we can say he never thought about that moment too💀 Now this doesn't come to you so logical too, right? After Katsuki apologized to him, he cried while running to him dude, lmao.
I think Izuku thought about both of those moments. I put izuocha tag there because I talked about izuocha too and as long as izuocha shippers are respectful with me, I would love to listen and talk with you too. Care to explain to me how this is not respectful please?
One of the izuocha shippers in that post's comment pointed an izuocha moment I forget and I thanked them. When I wanted to answer them, I put that pic there too so any other people would see that too. I've never said izuocha shouldn't be canon, I said "if izuocha is gonna be canon, it should be better than this" because Izuku and Ochako deserve better than this. How is this not respectful, please tell me 😶🌫️
Also if you are gonna be like this, PLEASE read whats written there carefully before jumping to anonym asks, you might hurt someone's feelings like that while harassing people like this💀
Hi chat, how are u all feeling
Im gonna answer you from here because my comment got lost because of the internet😭 Im gonna write here again😔🤧
@nightblightowl
First of all, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me! I was remembering that moment like Deku was holding her hand with two hands and so I didn't think it was the same one here, thank you for reminding us! Im gonna put the prev hand holding moment here
However I still can't think this moment as romantic because at the prev moment, she was thinking about Himiko Toga, not Izuku. She was thinking about the girl who loved her. And again, when Deku came right in front of him she was still thinking about Himiko Toga. That's why I can't find this panel romantic. It felt more like just hurt/comfort to me. She literally thought Toga was alive and pushed her for a moment so she stumbled (I still think if horikoshi was gonna make izuocha clear, izuku shouldve tried to hold her and then he couldve hold her hand🫠 but anyway). She was still thinking about Himiko Toga.
Yes, she should move on bc she is dead. She has to live with that but she should move on but she still couldn't. I want her to confess her feelings, I want them to talk with each other but if they are gonna date, I don't want them to start dating like this. Izuku made his move to her with Katsuki's advice's, not with his own pure thoughts. Ochako still thinks about toga even when she is with him and I really think they should get therapy first😭 (I wrote this better in my prev comment but got deleted hhhhh)
Lets move on to the other subject
Do you remember when they were child and following bakugo with "bakugo agency" song? I was referring to that :) Izuku wouldn't do something he doesn't like even when he was that little and if I gotta show and example that would be when he was trying to protect someone against Katsuki and the others.
You can also see the pic I send in the first comment. He was asking to bakugo after all this years, about the agency thing. He doesn't need to ask him at all, he could ve ask anyone but he asked Katsuki. Even Shoto got curious and ask them if they are gonna open an agency together and they didn't refuse it so maybe Izuku was actually still thinking about working together even though if it may not be the "Bakugo agency".
Also I've never said Deku is obligated to tail Katsuki, can you please tell me why you thought it like that so I can edit my prev comment? Also I already said he could still be a teacher and be a hero in Katsuki's agency. I thought it was odd for him to reject him without even thinking for a moment. Because this doesn't feel like the same boy that said "Its not like I could just go and refuse him" when Katsuki wanted to fight with him.
Don't you think that rejecting katsuki could've another meaning too? Because what Izuku said in the chapter doesn't feel like a good excuse to me.
Katsuki wanted to be closer to him than before. Izuku whos the one who chased him for his whole life, acted like he is just an old classmate of his is normal for his character? I don't think so. And even if it is, I think Horikoshi should've make that more clear. Thats one of the reasons why I thought Izuku looks so blank in this chapter. Just like you said, they have come so far so thats what makes everything weird.
If you actually read all this long texts, thank you btw lmao. When it comes to making analyses I kinda can't stop😭 🌼
Tbh if my main ship would be izuocha, I'd be so disappointed.
I mean, Horikoshi didn't even drew Izuku catching Ochako when she was literally falling right into his arms. He could've said "It would be a bit of an unlucky situation if you fell, wouldn't it?" (I dont remember word to word in eng those words but you get it.) just like when Ochako talked to her for the first time he saw him and catching him before falling. One of them might have confess their feelings and then they would fall in love literally and that would be actually something meaningful.
I don't know how you guys feel but if izuocha is really going to be canon, I think it shouldve been like this, not with dabbing lmao.
We all know Horikoshi cares how he draws hands. Horikoshi thinks hands are one of the most characteristic things in the human body, thats why him choosing izuku and ochako dabbing makes everything funny to me. Everything about izuku in this chapter was so blank to me idk.
Also when Izuku was leaving katsuki, the way katsuki put one of his hand in his pocket and probably holding that All Might card firmly... I felt a lot of things while seeing him only in that panel.
Their dream was opening an agency together and being heroes together and compete with each other... How did it come to this? Izuku still could've join Bakugo's agency and do part time teacher job, why did he reject him and did that so coldly? What changed? Im sure even Shoto wanted to be in their agency, my baby boy will be frustrated when he hears all of this😭
I wanna talk too much but I don't know where to start...
Note: its just my thoughts, I tried to not add my thoughts about my ship and I respect what you think, if you wanna share your thoughts please do it but in a respectful way :3
Hihihihihi🤭
Guys imagine in the last chapter we see Midoriya Izuku being actually Toga Himiko...
Tsuyu helped her to escape and then sometimes they changed places when tsuyus supposed to meet with ochako. Both of them want her to be happy and toga thinks that if ochako learns she is alive, shed be stuck with her so toga tries to help her while trying to make her date with izuku
Guys imagine in the last chapter we see Midoriya Izuku being actually Toga Himiko...
That would be really unlikely bc of Izuku's ex quirk I think but I feel you 😭 tbh I thought it was Toga that was watching Ochako as Tsuyu when she was being lifted to the helicopter because we couldn't see her corpse 🤡 she was literally lying next to her...
Guys imagine in the last chapter we see Midoriya Izuku being actually Toga Himiko...
Guys imagine in the last chapter we see Midoriya Izuku being actually Toga Himiko...
Ochako see this when she sleeps, trust me.
I FINISHED 🥳 MORE TOGACHAKO BRAINROT LETS F*CKING GOOOOOOO
(pls click the pic if you wanna see the details better :3)
@dailytogachako happy late b-day :3
While I understand how disappointing it can be when a beloved ship isn't made canon, I find some of the responses to these most recent leaks to be wildly abhorrent and inappropriate.
Canon or not, you still have a robust community with plenty of fan-generated content to read and explore.
Sincerely,
Tell me this isnt doomed yaoi bkdk coded and watch me going insane guys
Katsuki: Do you like stars?
*He looks next to himself*
Katsuki: yeah, me too.
Bakugo Katsuki literally just took the Ekko treatment and I am not okay.
Bakugo Katsuki literally just took the Ekko treatment and I am not okay.
Nah Katsuki made Izuku confess to Ochako bc he wanted him yo be happy and thought he deserves better, better than himself. Izuku and Ochako dates for a while but since both of them always just tries to be nice, after some time they start to understand they don't have romantic chemistry.
Ochako understand this first and then she will realise how Katsuki and Izuku feels to each other, she's gonna help Izuku to understand all of this bc my boi is always the oblivious one.
Bkdk will kiss and hold each others's hands and thank Ochako. She will say that she's just happy to at least some of them can find the happiness. Izuku and Ochako will hug each other. When Ochako goes to her home, she will see Tsuyu, the one who always listen her sad, happy and angry times.
Tsuyu will ask Ochako how she feels and hug each other, she will fall right into her arms and the door will nearly bust open. She will see another Tsuyu and both of the Tsuyu's words will be just "uh oh".
Even though I didn't like the end too much, or when there was a bkdk implied art published, I never tried to be mean to other shippers and I'd like every shipper to be respectful to each other. This shouldn't be that hard.
If I think izuocha is not the best logical ship in the manga, I try to explain it with reasons while still trying to be respectful. Doing this kind of things shouldn't be that hard to any shippers (not just izuocha shippers but all of them).
If I want to think Izuku and Ochako dated a while but then they thought they don't have the romantic chemistry, I can. But I wouldn't do this while trying to be mean to izuocha shippers, I would just have fun on my own. If I want to think Izuku and Ochako get married, I can. But I wouldn't do this while trying to be mean to any shippers.
Please try to be respectful, it shouldn't be this hard.
I ssaw bnha leaks and now I see a notification about new helluva boss episode? Im gonna fuckng scream if this one will make me cry too
I cant find the epilogue ep there😭 and yes, this is official...
Toga appearance in volume 42
I need to summon @dailytogachako here I have no fuckin idea if this is really from manga but ayooo
Toga appearance in volume 42
When he said "for the rest of our lives", he took it seriously
OH MY GOD THE DAY AFTER I MAKE A PAGE OF SKETCHES FOR HAWKS THE LEAKS COME OUT AND IT’S HIS BACKSTORY HOLY SHIT
HE IS SO ADORABLE OMG