hello everyone!! warning this is REALLY long (specifically as you get to the end). i hope you enjoy my in depth theorizing.
The flickering of his picture.
At the end of round 7, his picture lingers and flickers after Luka moves up the ranks. In all the previous rounds, the loser’s picture faded out before the winner moved up. People are saying this is a reach but I believe this is the most obvious hint. Vivinos’ details are always intentional and significant.
His earpiece falling out.
His earpiece falls out after he gets shot. We are shown that these earpieces detect the wearer’s heartbeat. They couldn’t detect his heartbeat disappearing because it fell out. Due to his picture lingering and then flickering, I assume the flickering was as his earpiece fell out.
When you think about it, why else would they show us this teaser image? This teaser pushed it into our faces that the earpieces are heart monitors. I think it’d be a little too coincidental that till’s earpiece fell out after this.
How he was shot.
The gunshots came from the audience. Meaning that where Till got shot, it didn’t go through his neck, and only grazed it.
This injury isn’t as fatal as Ivan’s and Sua’s. He also didn’t bleed out as he got shot, while Ivan and Sua bled out all over the floor.
This shows that his injury wasn’t bad enough to be fatal. He’s definitely severely hurt, as he coughed up blood, but he’s salvageable.
The way his body is lying.
Till’s arm went limp, yet his leg was still staying up. If you’re dead, you physically cannot support any part of your body. His leg would’ve fallen. I believe he DID pass out, though. I see people saying he’s pretending, and honestly I don’t believe he’s in the right headspace to think of faking he’s death. He’s tired, exhausted, he was clearly stressed throughout the round.
The fact that he’s still able to support his leg up shows that blood is still actively flowing through him. If he were dead, it’d be pretty much physically impossible for his leg to stay propped up, as blood would’ve stopped flowing.
Also the way he’s positioned to the audience, his leg is covering up where aliens would be able to see the injury, same with Mizi’s arm. This is definitely more of a stretch, just a detail I noticed
His All-In cover art.
In his cover, he has red tape over his neck. I think this is too significant and OUT as a detail to not mean anything. Although it’s on the opposite side of where he actually got shot, bandaging his neck in general seems too big of a detail. None of the other characters had a detail like this in their cover arts.
It could be said that he has the tape due to being a rebel, which made sense before Round 7. But if we used this logic, wouldn’t Hyuna have some significant detail in her cover art?
We also know that red equals rebellion in Alien Stage. It signifies fighting back. As I said before, this COULD be said because he’s a rebel, but I think he’d be fighting back despite his injury. It wasn’t a fatal wound.
His character is unfinished.
His death doesn’t make sense compared to the other characters that died. Ivan’s death was easier to accept because we knew his motives, his story. For the entirety of Alien Stage, he was the narrator in his and Till’s story. There wasn’t any mystery surrounding his character, so it made sense to kill him. Sua’s death was easier to accept because her death did something for the narrative, as her death started this chain of events and continued to haunt the narrative. We also eventually learned her true motives.
But Till’s death? It does nothing. You could say his death is to build Mizi’s character, but I think it’d make more sense if he LIVED for Mizi’s character. Her motivations would change, it’d be easier to move on from events if she had someone with shared trauma with her. In general, Till’s death makes no sense compared to the other deaths. He didn’t have any motivations at this point besides living. Sua and Ivan’s goals were fulfilled, which was protecting their loved ones. But Till’s wasn’t. His death is significantly different from the other dead contestants.
His story is also just.. not done at all. He was just beginning to develop as a character. Mizi grew after Sua’s death, her character developed significantly. Till didn’t develop as a character after Mizi’s disappearance, and he didn’t have the chance to develop after Ivan’s death, even though it was significant to him. We also got literally NOTHING from his POV besides around 2, which was just him adoring Mizi and a little peek at the abuse he’s endured. Also his death is just a waste in general—I don’t believe they’d tell his story AFTER he died. It just makes no sense to kill off his character after questions were just being raised.
How the creators are treating his ‘death’.
The way that Vivimeng are treating his ‘death’ feels so especially different to me. Ivan’s art after his death was a bittersweet art, and he was resting. he was okay with his death, and we were forced to accept that reality. Plus the "thank you for being the victim of my shallow emotions" comic. That concluded his story, we learned his motives and it was easier to accept he died after. But Till? We never got his POV on anything. We never got his final thoughts like we did Ivan and Sua. Till’s story was never told through his OWN eyes. Vivimeng are GATEKEEPING till's perspective like their life depends on it. My theory as to why? His character isn't over. His life isn't over, there's so much missing about him and the dots aren't connecting in the same way they have for the previous deaths
Till’s comic and art were happy. Bittersweet pieces. You knew there was a tinge of sadness, yet I can't help but feel these last till arts are pushing hope onto us. Ivan and Sua’s comics ended with their deaths, Till’s ended with 4nakt all together. it brings the theme of hope. Of love prevailing. I feel we can't look over the fact that Till’s comic is so vastly different than the others.
I should also note that they are going out of their way to hide details of his neck in all official arts after Round 7. He’ll have his branding hidden, or just straight up gone. Also in the recent official art of him, Ivan and Sua, his art is significantly different. He’s the only one facing away from us, the blood on him not visible, and his injury is also facing away from us. There’s a lack of branding on him as well. I feel this is the most obvious piece we’ve gotten signifying that he’s going to be alive, they’re deliberately hiding any way for us to see the aftermath of his injury. Unlike with Ivan and Sua, where they made their aftermath very obvious. (I would add images but I reached the image limit. Crying.)
Vivinos excels too much at writing to fail his character like this. To kill him off as his story just started. I believe him finally being able to tell his own story instead of having others tell it for him will symbolize him breaking free. Breaking free from the restraints. From his status as a prisoner. I think this experience will further him as a character, and not truly end him.
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From a narrative standpoint, killing off Till would not be the right decision for writing. Each character dies and has a person to grieve them and experience growth based around their loss. Sua was grieved by Mizi, Hyuna will be grieved by Luka, and for Ivan, his person was Till. But if Till was dead only a few hours later, how could he recieve that character growth? I think if Till was dead, that wouldn't be good writing, and I'd be quite annoyed if he is dead.
This is slightly an add on to previous point, but the standees pretty clearly confirm it to me. Sua, Ivan, and Hyuna are all gray scaled and have angel wings. The others are in color and grieving their losses. If till was dead, wouldn't he also be an angel? It reinforces my long standing belief of him living.
There was no after-death comic like with Sua, Ivan, or Hyuna. It does not feel like he is supposed to be dead.
The things used to monitor heart rate in their ears, you can catch Mizi taking it out if you watch closely enough. Hence, sort of a way to fool the aliens into thinking they're dead, if that makes sense?
Also, at the end of round 7, his portrait flickered out and glitched. Others portraits went immediately out. Maybe it's because, I don't know, a heartbeat was still detected until she took out the monitor?
He didn't bleed out like the others did, you don't see a pool of blood, leaving me to believe the neck wound isn't that deep and can be treated. As long as it didn't pentrate the platsyma muscle he has good odds. (You guys do not wanna know how much I've researched neck wounds for this.)
His leg is still upright, which if he's dead, wouldn't really work? I mean there has to be blood flowing still for his leg to be up. He very well could just be unconscious, a multitude of factors would make fainting likely.
At the end of Wiege, Mizi's arms are over his face when they weren't before. Leading me to think, what if he opened his eyes and she's trying to hide it from the aliens? ALSO, my friend pointed out, if you turn up your volume at the end of wiege, YOU CAN LITERALLY HEAR A HEARTBEAT.
Art symbolism. In one piece of official art, he looks away from the camera while the others look at it. Maybe I'm delusional but it helps me believe he's alive even more. Also, in the art they posted after round 7, there's a red thing coming from his neck that looks like something used in a blood transfusion. Also the all-in cover art has a red bandage where he was shot.
Looking through my notes, I do have more evidence but it's sorta iffy. So these are my main points.
I really hope yall appreciate my theory and get what I mean because I started this theory November 19th. It's March 17th. Crazy.
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