I find it really weird that "JC wanted WWX to be subordinate to him forever rather be of equal standing!" is viewed as some kind of slam dunk instead of like...how aristocracy works. LWJ is also subordinate to LXC. LXC mostly lets his little brother do whatever he wants but there was that time he oversaw LWJ getting whipped 33 times. That happened!
I shrug! As you said, it's not as though Xichen thinks that because Lan Wangji is brilliant and talented he should run off and found his own sect. Zixun is an miserable asshole who is deeply concerned with class and status but he doesn't seem to be planning on doing anything besides being Zixuan's subordinate forever. As far as I can tell "second in command to the leader of one of the five great sects" is a pretty important and high status job and it actually says a lot about their relationship that Wei Wuxian feels secure enough in his right to that position that it's something he can offer to Jiang Cheng as a kind of reassurance. They live in a hierarchical society, anyone who stays with Jiang Cheng is going to be his subordinate at least on paper, and it's not like he's a particularly demanding boss when it comes to Wei Wuxian specifically. Like:
He cares about how their relationship is publicly perceived. He is definitely aware of ways that the shift from "kids fucking around and finding out" to "leaders and last surviving remnants of their sect" has shifted the potential consequences of their dynamic. There are moments in MDZS and especially CQL where Wei Wuxian blowing him off hurts his feelings or makes him angry, but if Wei Wuxian had wanted to just spend his life fucking around in Yunmeng doing whatever I think it's pretty obvious that Jiang Cheng would have rolled his eyes but also rolled with it.
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Do not be daunting and immovable, do not be inflexible and stern, limit neither your growth nor your movement. Do not be a mountain for they are reduced to dust by little more than slight rains and soft winds.
Be water, flow through life picking up wisdom but don't let it overburden you. Be transient, change your form as and when required. Be as hard and cold as ice, rise up to the skies when the land becomes too unkind, let yourself be dragged through sewers if that'll keep you alive and revert back to your original form when the conditions suit you. But most importantly, don't lose the sight of your true nature through all this.
Be water.
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Quick rundown of the Jiangs being excluded from great sect stuff after the Sunshot campaign:
Exhibit A: no Jiang representation in the venerated triad. This is the only one I’m 100% certain is supported by the novel, but it makes up for it by being doubly insulting in the novel/donghua canon, because in that story, the Sunshot campaign was pretty much Jiang Cheng’s project. He was the one rallying the lesser clans to fight, he was the one who convinced the great clans to join the effort, and he led the battle. He had Lan Xichen’s support, but it was still his war. But even without all that, one, the Sunshot campaign wouldn’t have started if not for what happened at Lotus pier, and two, it wouldn’t have been won without Wei Wuxian, first disciple of the Jiang clan. And yet, the group of special sworn brothers who everyone will remember and respect, who represent a better post-Sunshot world has no one from the Jiang clan.
Exhibit B: maybe not as strong as the other evidence I’m pulling, but worth noting is him getting ignored when he speaks up at conferences. He did try to defend Wei Wuxian, Wen Qing, and Wen Ning! But everything he said was just brushed aside (and in some pretty weak and hypocritical ways I might add). I’m pretty sure that nothing he brings to the table is actually considered.
Exhibit C: in the one discussion we see about what to do with the Wen remnants after the Sunshot, Jiang Cheng isn’t even in the room. This is a matter that should be decided at some major conference, with input from every acknowledged sect, but it happens in basically a private conversation where Jin Guangshan tells Lan Xichen and Nie Mingjue what he thinks should happen, the two of them make token efforts to uphold justice for the remnants, Jin Guangyao comes in halfway through to suggest Qiongqi pass as a location for a prison camp, and they all say okay and leave. No Jiang input in sight, even though again, this was the Jiangs’ fight.
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